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    Hi KJ,

    I hope that I'm not out of line here and with no disrespect to you or your craft.
    In all the pictures of your cues the rings are not align, this is something that bothers my eyes (see picture)



    I hope you take it as a constructive remark and nothing else.
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    I actually like it that the rings are not aligned. I feel that too much symmetry would be boring. Just my opinion.

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    Default Re: How does it compare?

    That ringwork is his signature, that is why he uses them. You may find rings that are not lining up on other great cues too (such as SW).

    RKW: to me symmetry is hardly ever boring, but for some reason I feel like that this cue should look awesome in person - beautiful choices of woods and the ringwork just adds that bit of salt that makes this cue stand out from the other merry widows.
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    David Bredan

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    Default Re: How does it compare?

    Skor,
    That's a good question that deserves a good answer. No offense taken.
    The answer is that I deliberately try to keep the rings OUT of alignment.
    Whether it 'bothers' your eye or 'captures' your eye is a matter of perspective. In either case, it got your attention.

    At the request of a buyer when placing his order, I did align the rings on his cue. It's not a difficult thing to do. While he got what he wanted, my opinion was and still is, that the symmetry of the ring had lost it's appeal. Overall, it gave me the look of a piece of art that had been 'forced'. Art is about free flow of design. These same rings, when used on a 4 pt. cue would certainly compliment the symmetry of design if held in alignment with the points. particularly if there were 4 aligned inlays in the butt sleeve. In that instance it would be risky to deliberately mis-align the rings.

    The '45' series is all about celebrating the beauty and uniqueness of the woods themselves. There is no alignment of the birdseyes nor is there any alignment in the burl. Therfore, the theme could be defined as 'dis-order'.
    On these cues, deliberate alignment of the rings would only serve to confuse the desired theme. As the builder, this is my opinion/position and I certainly don't expect everyone in the world to agree with me. Let's call it; 'artistic license'.

    On a parting note, I'll give you some food for thought. I use my rings at all positions, A B C D & E. Aligning the rings at A (the shaft) & B (the joint collar) is almost impossible or at least, a waste of time. As the shaft connects to the handle, there is no practical way of knowing in advance where the shaft will 'seat' in it's home position. To bring the shaft ring into alignment with the handle, the faces of the shaft & the handle could be trimmed so as to allow further rotation of the shaft to meet alignment. In the process, the black rings adjacent to the dash ring are being trimmed thinner and thinner. There goes the symmetry. Let's also consider that should I be able to align the A & B rings at the time that I build the cue, over time the shaft will rotate ever so slightly as the shaft 'wears in' to it's seat. Now that A & B are slightly out of line, the rest of the cue that is in line, looks out of place. The situation is not just a can of worms but more like a dumpster full of snakes. Sometimes, that's just the way it is. KJ
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    Thanks for your input on this.
    It's good to know that you would align the rings upon customer request.
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    Default Re: How does it compare?

    Hi All,
    I've had these images sitting on my desk-top for a while now and thought I better get them posted before everybody forgets what this is about. The discussion is about deco-ring alignment. You've got 2 choices, you can either align all the rings or you can deliberately keep them out of alignment. I choose the latter. Here are some examples of rings held in alignment. This builder has apparently adopted this design form as part of his cues' identity. It appears in much of his work or as much of it as I've seen. The builder, Greg Sirca, builds a very fine cue and is well known and respected on AZ. It is these types of design characteristics that differentiate one build from another. 'Viva la differance'.

    The last image is the butt section of a cue built by the famous Vern Horn, a world-class builder. While his deco-rings are held in alignment, they are out of alignment with the inlays in the butt-sleeve, at least from my perspective.







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